Surname Saturday #4: Stuempges

Have you ever seen a family use the mother's surname, instead of the father's? My maternal grandmother, Elaine Stuempges, is the grandparent I know the most about. I've been fortunate enough to have been (and continue to be) told stories from my mom and aunt about my grandma, that I cherish every day. I really should write down everything they tell me! The Stuempges are pure German, having immigrated directly to Wisconsin in the 1850's. The earlier Stümpges family must have had some kind of wealth or higher social standing within the community, because as you'll see with the earliest generations (10 and 11), the children used the MOTHER'S surname.. not the father's. This was the case for two sisters, one of which I descend from! Very very interesting! Here is what I know on my grandmother's family:

1. Elaine Florella Stuempges
b. 31 Dec 1926, Polar, Langlade County, Wisconsin
d. 19 Jun 1987, Chicago, Cook County, Illinois
m1. James William Felton; 14 Jun 1948, Chicago, Cook County, Illinois
m2. Thomas Thurman Rodgers; 01 Dec 1961, Crown Point, Lake County, Illinois
*Children omitted for privacy.

2. Walter John Stuempges
b. 10 Jun 1899, Coon Valley, Vernon County, Wisconsin
d. 13 May 1982, Ely, St. Louis County, Minnesota
m1. Sylvia Maria Bertha Hedwig Martin; 21 Sep 1927, Aberdeen, Brown County, South Dakota
m2. Bernice Valerie Kluwe; 28 May 1949, Ely, St. Louis County, Minnesota
*Children omitted for privacy.

3. Johann Philipp Julius "John" Stuempges
b. 30 Nov 1860, Newton, Manitowoc County, Wisconsin
d. 16 Feb 1951, Antigo, Langlade County, Wisconsin
m. Anna Weishaupt; 28 Sep 1887, Newburgh's Corner, La Crosse County, Wisconsin
*Lewis Carl Stuempges
*Susanna Stuempges
*Ida Stuempges
*Adolf Julius Stuempges
*Eddie Willie Stuempges
*Arthur A. Stuempges
*Walter John Stuempges (above)
*Agnes Stuempges
*Herman Frank Stuempges
*Irvin Albert Stuempges
*Bernice Stuempges

4. Johann Peter Stümpges
b. 25 Jan 1831, Rheydt, Mönchengladbach, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany
d. 28 Mar 1911, Manitowoc, Manitowoc County, Wisconsin
m1. Katharina Sprengling; 06 Oct 1859, Newton, Manitowoc County, Wisconsin
m2. Sophia Carolina Friederica Stuek; 16 Feb 1866, First German Evangelical Lutheran Church, Manitowoc, Manitowoc County, Wisconsin
m3. Johanna Ratsatz; 26 Mar 1889, Manitowoc County, Wisconsin
(m1)*Johann Philipp Julius "John" Stuempges (above)
(m1)*Philipp Bernard Stuempges
(m1)*William Heinrich Stuempges
(m2)*Herman Christian Stuempges
(m2)*Sophie Johanna Anna Maria Stuempges
(m2)*Wilhelmina Stuempges
(m2)*Albert Heinrich Stuempges
(m2)*Frederich Wilhelm Stuempges
(m2)*Fredericka Wilhelmina Maria Stuempges

5. Johann Stümpges
b. Nov/Dec 1798, Rheydt, Mönchengladbach, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany
ba. 02 Dec 1798, Rheydt, Mönchengladbach, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany
d. 1855, Newton, Manitowoc County, Wisconsin
m. Gertrude Vits; 22 Oct 1825, Rheydt, Mönchengladbach, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany
*Heinrich Stümpges
*Johanna Mechtilda Stümpges
*Johann Peter Stümpges (above)
*Wilhelm H. Stümpges
*Julius Stümpges

6. Peter Stümpges
b. 11 Jul 1757, Rheydt, Mönchengladbach, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany
d. unknown, probably Rheydt, Mönchengladbach, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany
m. Mechtildis Vits; 08 Aug 1790, Rheydt, Mönchengladbach, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany
*Adelheid Stümpges
*Wilhelm Heinrich Stümpges
*David Stümpges
*Daughter Stümpges
*Johannes Peter Stümpges
*Johann Stümpges (above)
*Anna Margaretha Stümpges
*Catharina Stümpges
*Adam Stümpges

7. David Stümpges
b. 14 Mar 1714, Rheydt, Mönchengladbach, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany
d. 18 Nov 1795, Rheydt, Mönchengladbach, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany
m. Griedtgen Schippers; 19 May 1743, Rheydt, Mönchengladbach, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany
*Olletgen Stümpges
*Olletgen Stümpges
*Johann Wilhelm Stümpges
*Johann Wilhelm Stümpges
*Peter Stümpges
*Olletgen Stümpges
*Peter Stümpges
*Peter Stümpges (above)
*Johannes Stümpges

8. Peter Stümpges
b. 23 Dec 1680, Rheydt, Mönchengladbach, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany
d. 23 Dec 1753, Rheydt, Mönchengladbach, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany
m. Olletgen Pferdmenges; 17 Jun 1708, Rheydt, Mönchengladbach, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany
*Tringen Stümpges
*Tringen Stümpges
*Wilhelm Stümpges
*Mairken Stümpges
*David Stümpges (above)
*Corst Stümpges
*Gretchen Stümpges
*Alleta Stümpges
*Gretchen Stümpges
*Mechel Stümpges

9. Vitus Stümpges
b. 07 Aug 1655, Rheydt, Mönchengladbach, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany
d. unknown, Rheydt, Mönchengladbach, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany
m. Mercken Driescher; abt 1675
*Peter Stümpges (above)
*Antonius Christoph Stümpges
*Giertgen Stümpges
*Engen Stümpges
*Adolf Stümpges
*Adolf Stümpges
*Hedreutgen Stümpges
*Eugen Stümpges
*Peter Stümpges
*Peter Stümpges
*Godfridas Stümpges
*Anna Stümpges

10. Thönis am Bleeckkamp *(Children Used Mother's Surname!)*
b. abt 1615-1616, probably Mönchengladbach, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany
d. 1682-1684, Korschenbroich, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany
m. Giertgen Stümpges; abt 1645, Mönchengladbach, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany
    b. 09 Nov 1617, Korschenbroich, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany
    d. aft 02 Mar 1693, Korschenbroich, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany
*Petrus Stümpges
*Barbara Stümpges
*Trinken Stümpges
*Trinken Stümpges
*Adolphus Stümpges
*Vitus Stümpges
*Mechel Mechtilde Stümpges
*Adolphus Stümpges
*Bilgen Stümpges

11a. Peter then Bleeck
m. Trintgen am Endt
*Thönis am Bleeckkamp (above)

11b. Adolf Stümpges
b. abt 1573, Korschenbroich, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany
d. 05 Feb 1658, Korschenbroich, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany
m. Barbara Drubis; 1599, Korschenbroich, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany
*Vit Stümpges
*Jacob Stümpges
*Anna Stümpges
*Trein Stümpges, m. Rudolf Yeiten; children also assumed mother's surname.
*Giertgen Stümpges (above)
*Peter Stümpges

12b. Vit Stümpges
b. abt 1545
d. abt 1592, Korschenbroich, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany
m. Janna
*Adolf Stümpges (above)

Surname Saturday #3: Adas

My paternal grandmother's surname is Adas. Before immigrating to America, they were ethnic Kashubians from West Prussia. It was my grandmother's great-grandfather that immigrated to America in 1872. He first settled in Detroit, Michigan, married and started a family before he migrated to Chicago. Here is what I know on my Adas family:

1. Mary Louise Adas
b. 02 Mar 1940, Chicago, Cook County, Illinois
d. 03 May 1986, Burbank, Cook County, Illinois
m. John Gombash, Sr.; 30 Nov 1957, Chicago, Cook County, Illinois
*Children omitted for privacy.

2. Edward Robert Adas, Sr.
b. 14 Apr 1911, Chicago, Cook County, Illinois
d. 10 Jan 1962, Chicago, Cook County, Illinois
m. Martha Violet Czarny; 16 May 1934, Chicago, Cook County, Illinois
*Mary Louise Adas, (above)
*Edward Robert Adas, Jr., b. 08 Sep 1941

3. Joseph Adas
b. 21 May 1882, Detroit, Wayne County, Michigan
d. 20 Feb 1939, Chicago, Cook County, Illinois
m. Josephine Domagalski; 11 Oct 1903, Chicago, Cook County, Illinois
*Anna Adas, b. 26 Jul 1904, Chicago, Cook County, Illinois
*Thomas L. Adas, b. 19 Dec 1905, Chicago, Cook County, Illinois
*Joseph Vincent Adas, b. 27 Oct 1907, Chicago, Cook County, Illinois
*Lawrence Adas, b. 01 Sep 1909, Chicago, Cook County, Illinois
*Edward Robert Adas, Sr., (above)
*Raymund Adas, b. 18 Aug 1913

4. Joseph Vincenz Adass
b. 21 Jan 1853, Oslanin, Putzig parish, West Prussia
d. 21 Sep 1932, Chicago, Cook County, Illinois
m. Marianna Rosalia Plotzke; 18 Jan 1874, Detroit, Wayne County, Michigan
*John A. Adas, b. 18 Nov 1874
*Mary Annie Adas, b. 01 Feb 1878
*Martha R. Adas, b. 08 Feb 1880
*Joseph Adas, (above)
*Frank Martin Adas, b. 11 Sep 1884
*Rosalia Adas, b. 18 Feb 1889

5. Johann Adass
b. 31 Oct 1825, Blansekow, Putzig parish, West Prussia
d. 1852, Oslanin, Putzig parish, West Prussia
m. Marianna Meina/Meyna; 15 Oct 1850, Putzig, Putzig parish, West Prussia
*Marianna Adass, b. 08 Dec 1851
*Joseph Vincenz Adass, (above)

6. Anton Adass
b. 15 Sep 1788, Blansekow, Putzig parish, West Prussia
d. before 23 Nov 1840, Oslanin, Putzig parish, West Prussia
m. Marianna Kolp; 25 Nov 1821, Putzig, Putzig parish, West Prussia
*Joseph Adass, b. 02 Feb 1823
*Johann Adass, (above)
*Anton Valentin Adass, b. 07 Feb 1830
*Marianna Adass, b. 19 Jan 1833
*Franz Adass, b. 06 Jun 1836
*Christina Adass, b. 01 Oct 1839

7. George Adass
b. about 1750
d. unknown
m. Anna Hirt; 28 Sep 1777, Putzig, Putzig parish, West Prussia
*Johannes Adass, b. 08 Oct 1778
*Barbara Adass, b. 17 Mar 1780
*Marianna Adass, b. 22 May 1782
*Catharina Adass, b. 08 May 1784
*Michael Adass, b. 05 Sep 1786
*Anton Adass, (above)
*Christina Adass, b. 30 Oct 1792
*Jacob Adass, b. 5 Jul 1794
*Matthias Adass, b. 28 Feb 1800

Surname Saturday #2: Rodgers (Yes, it's almost a week late!)

My mother's family, the Rodgers, have been in America since the early 18th century; immigrating from Ireland in 1718 and settling in Pennsylvania, before migrating to the Shenandoah Valley of Virginia, onward to Eastern Tennessee, then to Alabama and finally to Mississippi. Here's what I know:

1. Thomas Thurman Rodgers
b. 15 Jun 1928, Duck Hill, Montgomery County, Mississippi
d. 11 Feb 1983, Paducah, McCracken County, Kentucky
m. Elaine Florella Stuempges; 01 Dec 1961, Crown Point, Lake County, Indiana
*Children omitted for privacy.

2. Fred Lamar Rodgers
b. 22 Feb 1900, Carrollton, Carroll County, Mississippi
d. 10 Jul 1958, Duck Hill, Montgomery County, Mississippi
m. Ellen Inez Martin; 10 Jun 1917, Grenada, Grenada County, Mississippi
*Children omitted for privacy.

3. Allen Parks Rodgers
b. 29 Jun 1873, Carroll County, Mississippi
d. 14 Apr 1945, Duck Hill, Montgomery County, Mississippi
m1. Minnie Josephine Vance; 08 Jan 1894, Eskridge, Montgomery County, Mississippi
m2. Fannie Davidson; 23 May 1920, Montgomery County, Mississippi
*Joe Allen Rodgers, b. 06 Nov 1896
*Norman Lester Rodgers, b. 09 Jan 1897
*Fred Lamar Rodgers, (above)
*John Archie Rodgers, Sr., b. 04 Feb 1906
*Nancy Martha Rodgers, b. 29 Jun 1922
*William Chatham Rodgers, b. 10 Jul 1926
*Ruth Jane Rodgers, b. 30 Nov 1932

4. Allen Rodgers
b. 17 Apr 1820, Clarke County, Alabama
d. 11 Aug 1894, Carroll County, Mississippi
m1. Judith Walker McGehee; 05 Jan 1843, Lauderdale County, Mississippi
m2. Nancy Abigail Chatham; 08 Aug 1860, Carroll County, Misssissippi
*Andrew Jackson Rodgers, b. 29 Sep 1843
*Mary J. Rodgers, b. 27 Feb 1846
*James Hays Rodgers, b. 03 Nov 1848
*Alice Virginia Rodgers, b. 26 Jan 1851
*Allen Jasper Rodgers, b. 12 Sep 1853
*William Franklin Rodgers, b. 12 Sep 1853
*Ellen Frances Rodgers, b. 07 Oct 1856
*Evie Evelyn Rodgers, b. 06 Jul 1863
*Ada Elizabeth Rodgers, b. 25 May 1865
*Ida L. Rodgers, b. 01 May 1870
*Alma Gertrude Rodgers, b. 15 Jan 1872
*Allen Parks Rodgers, (above)
*Cicero Stephen Rodgers, b. Jan 1875

5. Hays Rodgers, Sr.
b. 01 Feb 1793, Greene County, Tennessee
d. Dec 1862, Pine Springs, Lauderdale County, Mississippi
m. Mary A. Scott; 16 Dec 1816, Clarke County, Alabama
*Lewis Rodgers, b. 20 Sep 1817
*James Rodgers, b. 03 Nov 1819
*Allen Rodgers, (above)
*Jackson Rodgers, b. 1821
*Susannah, b. 10 Feb 1822
*Stephan, b. 25 Jan 1824
*William Hays Rodgers, b. 29 Jan 1826
*Mary Ann Rodgers, b. 17 Mar 1828
*Timothy Rodgers, b. 04 Apr 1830
*Hays Rodgers, Jr., b. 01 Nov 1832
* Wilson Rodgers, b. 02 Sep 1834
*John W. Rodgers, b. 09 Nov 1836
*Elizabeth Rodgers, b. 26 Mar 1839
*Martha Jane Rodgers, b. 18 Oct 1844

6. James Rodgers
b. 1767-1769, Virginia
d. after 07 Aug 1826, Copiah County, Mississippi
m. Elly Hays; 20 Dec 1790, Greene County, Tennessee
*Elizabeth Rodgers, b. 25 Dec 1791
*Hays Rodgers, Sr., (above)
*Daughter Rodgers, b. 1794
*Absalom Rodgers, b. 1795
*Margaret "Peggy" Rodgers, b. 1797
*Susannah Rodgers, b. 09 Nov 1799
*Harvey Rodgers, b. 1800
*Elly Rodgers, b. abt 1801
*Polly Rodgers, b. 1806
*Napoleon Bonaparte Rodgers, b. 1808
*Lavenia J. Rodgers, b. 1819

7. James Rodgers
b. 1732-1745, place unknown
d. between Jul 1794 and Feb 1795, Greene County, Tennessee
m. Margaret; 21 May 1766, Augusta County, Virginia
*James Rodgers, (above)
*Joseph Rodgers, b. 1767-1769
*Thomas Rodgers, b. 1770
*John Rodgers, b. bef 1782
*Samuel Rodgers, b. 1775-1781
*Sarah Rodgers, b. bef 1784
*Margaret "Peggy" Rodgers, b. abt 1781
*Jane Rodgers, b. unknown

8. James Rodgers
b. unknown, Ireland
d. before 22 May 1760, Augusta County, Virginia
m. possibly Ann
*James Rodgers, (above)
*Thomas Rodgers, b. abt 1740
*John Rodgers, b. unknown

FamilySearch Find of the Day: My Long-Lost Aunt

A few weeks ago, I was doing some indexing and arbitrating for the Hungarian civil registration records on FamilySearch Indexing. To my surprise, it was my great-grandfather's town of Büdszentmihály, in Szabolcs county! Within the first few batches, I came upon a birth record for a Gombás child. I immediately saw the father's name was Gombás Sándor (the name of my 2nd-great-grandfather), but kind of pushed it off the burner thinking I had all the children for my 2nd-great-grandparents. But then I saw the house number Sándor was living in; it was the house number MY Sándor had grew up and lived in! I went down and looked at the mother's name, and there she was.. my 2nd-great-grandmother, Tóth Eszter. I was blown away that I had found a sibling to my great-grandfather that I hadn't known about. I stopped indexing and analyzed the whole record, extracted the information and went and saved the actual image off FamilySearch. To my delight, the record gave mention of the child's date of death and the record number! The two records below are the child's birth record and death record, respectively.

Entry Number: 73
Place: Szentmihályon (in Szentmihály)
Date of Registration: 30 November 1895
Name of Informant: Schwart Fáni
Occupation: Midwife
Residence: Szentmihály
Father: Gombás Sándor
Religion: Evangelical Reformed
Occupation: Farmer
Residence: Szentmihály, House Number 1041
Place of Birth: Szentmihály
Age: 23
Mother: Tóth Eszter
Religion: Evangelical Reformed
Occupation: Homemaker
Residence: Szentmihály
Place of Birth: Tiszadob, Szabolcs county
Age: 21
Place of Birth: Szentmihály, House Number 1041
Date of Birth: 26 November 1895, 9am
Gender: Female
Religion: Evangelical Reformed
Name: Eszter
Notes (bottom):
Schwartz Fáni was the midwife.
Notes (top left):
The child died on 14 December 1895, entry number 47.


Entry Number: 47
Place: Szentmihályon (in Szentmihály)
Date of Registration: 15 December 1895
Name of Informant: S. Nagy Sándor (who is this man??)
Occupation: Farmer
Residence: Szentmihály, House Number 352
Name of Deceased: Gombás Eszter
Religion: Evangelical Reformed
Residence: Szentmihály, House Number 1041
Place of Birth: Szentmihály
Age: 19 days
Father: Gombás Sándor, farmer in Szentmihály
Mother: Tóth Eszter, homemaker in Szentmihály
Place of Death: Szentmihály, House Number 1041
Date of Death: 14 December 1895, 8pm
Cause of Death: Congenital disease
Notes: S. Nagy Sándor was the informant of the death.

Surname Saturday #1: Gombash

Long have I put off beginning this weekly genealogical meme, but it's about time I started! Before I begin with the actual data, I wanted to talk a bit about the history of my surname and some DNA information.

My surname Gombash was originally Gombás, in Hungary. After coming to America, my 2nd-great-grandparents changed the spelling to aid in the pronunciation of the name. Gombás is a form of the Hungarian word "gomba", which means "fungus" or "mushroom". The term "gombás" implies the original fore-bearer of the surname was associated with mushrooms; either foraging for, growing and/or selling them.

I had my Y-DNA tested twice now; once a few years ago and a second time through a generous friend of mine. All results have come back to conclude that my direct Gombash line belongs to the haplogroup I2a2a, on the human family tree. It appears that our Gombash ancestors seems to have migrated to Hungary hundreds of years ago from the Bosnia-Croatia area.


1. John Edward Gombash, Sr.
b. 02 Oct 1935, Caretta, McDowell County, West Virginia
d. 02 Jun 2005, Joliet, Will County, Illinois
m. Mary Louise Adas; 30 Nov 1957, St. Mary Star of the Sea Church, Chicago, Cook County, Illinois
*Children omitted for privacy.

2. Alex Gombash; born Gombás Sándor (surnames come first in Hungary)
b. 07 Nov 1896, Büdszentmihály, Szabolcs megye, Hungary
d. 04 Jan 1968, Wheaton, DuPage County, Illinois
m1. Emma Hido (born Hajdú Irma); 19 Aug 1916, Kittanning, Armstrong County, Pennsylvania
m2. Catharin Grządziel; 1920-1922, possibly Joliet, Will County, Illinois
*Children omitted for privacy.

3. Alex Gombash; born Gombás Sándor
b. 21 Feb 1872, Büdszentmihály, Szabolcs megye, Hungary
d. 02 May 1931, Goff, Butler County, Pennsylvania
m. Tóth Eszter; 13 Mar 1895, Tiszadob, Szabolcs megye, Hungary
*Sándor; (above)
*Balázs (later Robert); b. 11 Mar 1898, d. Oct 1934
*József; b. 31 Oct 1900, d. unknown (adult)
*Susan; b. 19 Feb 1904, d. Nov 1967
*Gyula; b. 02 Feb 1906, d. unknown (infancy)
*Esther; b. 03 Sep 1910, d. 12 Feb 2000
*Sophie; b. 13 May 1912, d. unknown (infancy)
*Elizabeth; b. 15 May 1913, d. 12 Jan 1948
*Dallas; b. 11 May 1916, d. unknown (adult)
*Julia; b. 31 Jul 1920, d. 22 Jun 2008

4. Gombás József
b. 19 May 1845, Büdszentmihály, Szabolcs megye, Hungary
d. 10 Nov 1886, Büdszentmihály, Szabolcs megye, Hungary
m. Gulyás Zsuzsánna; 15 Dec 1869, Büdszentmihály, Szabolcs megye, Hungary
*Sándor; (above)
*Balázs; b. 23 Aug 1877, d. 07 Mar 1878

5. Gombás Sándor
b. 27 Aug 1814, Büdszentmihály, Szabolcs megye, Hungary
d. 04 Jan 1856, Büdszentmihály, Szabolcs megye, Hungary
m. Sajti Erzsébet; 01 Dec 1835, Büdszentmihály, Szabolcs megye, Hungary
*Miklós; b. 21 Sep 1838, d. 30 Nov 1840
*Miklós, b. 30 Jun 1842, d. unknown (adult)
*József; (above)

6. Gombás József
b. 30 Nov 1793, Büdszentmihály, Szabolcs megye, Hungary
d. 12 Jan 1879, Büdszentmihály, Szabolcs megye, Hungary
m. Mezei Katalin; 06 Jan 1813, Büdszentmihály, Szabolcs megye, Hungary
*Sándor; (above)
*Zsuzsánna; b. 28 Sep 1816, d. unknown
*Juliánna; b. 11 Feb 1819, d. unknown
*Lidia; b. 21 Jun 1820, d. unknown
*Bálint; b. 01 Jun 1829, d. unknown

7. Gombás György
b. about 1762, Büdszentmihály, Szabolcs megye, Hungary
d. 04 Mar 1832, Büdszentmihály, Szabolcs megye, Hungary
m. Sára Fodor de Hajdúnánás; 21 Jan 1789, Hajdúnánás, Hajdú megye, Hungary
*Zsuzsánna, b. 21 Feb 1791, d. 01 Mar 1795
*József, (above)
*Miklós, b. 20 Jun 1796, d. unknown
*Sándor, b. 06 Sep 1798, d. unknown
*Zsuzsánna, b. 30 Aug 1801, d. 18 Feb 1858
*Erzsébet, b. 07 Jan 1804, unknown
*Bálint, b. 17 Jul 1806, d.  06 Aug 1806
*János, b. 17 Jul 1806, d. 26 Jul 1806
*Bálint, b. 02 May 1808, d. unknown
*Juliánna, b. 20 Mar 1812, d. unknown

8. Gombás Péter
b. unknown
d. unknown
m. unknown
*György, (above)

The Hungarian-Jewish Family Tree of Zsa Zsa Gabor

Lately, on my down time from work and helping out family, I've been doing some sleuthing into Zsa Zsa Gabor's family a bit more. Back in February, I had stumbled upon Zsa Zsa's maternal aunt's marriage record. Her name was Rozália Tilleman and she was married to a man named Manó Rein. You can find that previous entry here. Well I've done a bit more digging, and I've found a lot more information to add to Zsa Zsa Gabor's family tree!

There has been much dispute about Zsa Zsa Gabor's mother's correct birthdate. Well, I have found Jolie Gabor's birth record! Zsa Zsa Gabor's mother was born as Janka Tilleman, on 30 September 1896, in Budapest District VII; the birth was registered on 02 October 1896. Her father was listed as "Tilleman Jona Hersch" (surnames were written first in Hungary). He was a sugar salesman by trade and born abt 1865 in Drohobycz, Galicia. Her mother was listed as "Reinharz Chawe Faige". She was born about 1872 in Boleczhow, Galicia. They were both of the Jewish faith and resided at Király utcza (street) 21, Budapest District VII. I'm not really sure where Jolie Gabor came up with the name "Jancsi", claiming her father wanted a boy. Janka is the Hungarian version of the feminine name Johanna.

Two years later, I found the birth record for Janka's sister, Rozália Tilleman; Zsa Zsa's aunt that I had found the marriage record for, earlier this year. She was born on 05 October 1898 in Budapest District VII; the birth being registered on 07 October 1898. Her father was listed as "Tilleman Jóna Hersch". He was a café manager by trade and born about 1865 in Drohobycz, Galicia. Her mother was listed as "Reinharcz Chawe Feige"; born about 1872 in Bolechow, Galicia. They were both Jewish and resided at Király utcza (street) 17, Budapest District VII.

Knowing that Jona Tilleman was deceased prior to his daughter Rozália's marriage in 1923, I went in search of a marriage record for Chawe Feige Reinharz.. and I found one! She was remarried on 27 November 1928 in Budapest District VI, to a doctor named "Kende Miksa" (remember, surnames first!) He was a widower of the Jewish faith who was born on 05 December 1864 in Klenócz, Czechoslovakia (previously Klenócz, Gömör county, Hungary; today Klenovec, Slovakia). He was the son of the deceased "Kohn Mór Lipót" and the deceased "Klein Resi". He was also a resident of Pannonia utcza 8/a, Budapest District V. The bride, "Reinharz Chave Feige", was listed as divorced (had she divorced Jona Tilleman prior to his death?) and born on 28 November 1873 in Bolchow, Poland; she was a resident of Rákóczi utcza 54, Budapest District VII. She was the daughter of the deceased "Reinharz Eisig" and the deceased "Stein Dwora". Witnesses to the marriage were "Hacker Bertalan", residing at Budapest District VI, Munkácsy utcza 3, and "Dr. Grosz Menyhért", residing at Budapest District V, Pannonia utcza 8/a (same residence of the groom).

With all the information gathered together, I have been able to research back to Zsa Zsa Gabor's maternal great-grandparents. Above, you can find a basic family tree to help explain the family relationships.

Does anyone know when Jona Hersch Tilleman died? When Vilmos Gábor, father of Zsa Zsa, was born and died.. and where? If you have any additional information, please contact me!

My Genealogical To-Do List

Earlier tonight, I saw a genealogy friend on Facebook make a post about some potential lines of research that had opened up for her recently. I haven't had too much time lately to research my own family, but it got me to thinking about what lines I still need to work on for my own family. So i'm compiling a list of my top lines I still need to research, including a little bit of information on what I already know.

1.  Prechtal, Baden, Germany

My 7th-great-grandparents are Johannes Haas and Barbara Burger. I descend through their daughter, Anna Catharina Haas, who was born on 28 August 1748. Anna Catharina also had two brothers that I know of: Johannes and Simon. The father and two sons all had the occupation of 'kirchenpfleger', which was a person in charge of the church's finances and estate. All three were also farmers, and Simon was a judge as well. There must have been some kind of money within this Haas family, for them to have had such high positions in their community as these.

2.  Sankt Georgen im Schwarzwald, Baden, Germany

My 5th-great-grandmother is Christina Schultheiss, born 05 February 1792 to Johann Georg Schultheiss and his wife, Christina Haas. I do know that Christina Schultheiss had two siblings (possibly more?), named Brigitta and Jacob. Brigitta was married to a man named Jacob Weisser. Johann Georg Schultheiss was a schreiner by occupation, which was a joiner.. a carpenter of sorts.

3.  Kirnbach, Ortenau Kreis, Baden, Germany

My 5th-great-grandparents are Johann Georg Sum and Katharina Reuter. Johann Georg was born on 07 January 1785, to Christian Sum and Annna Maria Lehrer. Katharina Reuter was born on 25 August 1789, Johannes Reuter and Anna Maria Sum. As you can see, there are two Sum lines of descendancy.

4.  Weinolsheim, Kreis Oppenheim, Hessen-Nassau, Germany

My 4th-great-grandfather was Johann Phillipp Sprengling, born in May of 1796 to Johann Peter Sprengling and Katharina Lohr. I know that Johann Phillipp was married two times: first to Elisabetha Krause and second to Katharina Mai. Both father and son were an 'ackermann' by trade.

5.  Dolgesheim, Kreis Oppenheim, Hessen-Nassau, Germany

My 4th-great-grandmother was Katharina Mai, birth date unknown, to Nikolaus Mai and Anna Barbara Stallmann. Nikolaus was a 'wagnermeister' by trade.

6.  Putzig parish, West Prussia, Prussia

Two sets of 5th-great-grandparents are from this parish. The first is Anton Adass, born 15 September 1788 in Blansekow, to George Adass and Anna Hirt. His wife, Marianna Kolp, was born about 1804. The second set were Franz Meina/Meyna, born about 1789-1796 and Justina Kolp, born about 1805. Take note of the two Kolp lines of descendancy.

7.  Gross Starsin parish, West Prussia, Prussia

My 3rd-great-grandmother was Marianna Rosalia Pletzke (possible Plotzke?). She was born 15 August 1848 in Reddischau, to Joseph August Pletzke and Rosalia Hinzke.

8.  Brzyskorzystew parish (Znin), Bydgoszcz, Poland

My 4th-great-grandfather was Martin (Marcin) Domagala/Domagalski. He was born anytime between 1859-1865 (several conflicting birth dates on vital records and censuses), to Adalbert Domagala/Domagalski and Marianna Gadacz. Adalbert and Marianna were married on 14 May 1853 in the parish of Brzyskorzystew.

9.  Kurnik parish, Poznan, Poland

My 6th-great-grandparents were Melchior Lesniewski and Marianna Kaminska. Melchior was born about 1794 to Jacob and Marianna Lesniewski. Marianna was born about 1800 to Joseph and Marianna Kaminski. Melchior and Marianna were married in 1820 in Kurnik.